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Thursday, October 13, 2005

Taking a piss on courtship!

About a month ago, I came across an esoterically oozing mass of gutter shit, which was being wrongly passed off as a conjecture. It really got my stomach in a few knots; so I decided to defame it in grand fashion on one of the forums that I visit. I would like to share the whole rant, and the comments that follow up.

Kade’s Post:

Link that got all this started: http://www.unfogged.com/cgi-bin/mt-comment...i?entry_id=1558

I implore readers to read through the final comment on that blog entry. I personally don’t read such garbage but incidentally I was lead to this source while researching “monogamy.”

The moment that comment started; so did a massive twist at the depths of my gut. I was wishing more than anything to take out that ‘knot’ in my stomach, tear out my intestines, and then wrap them around this cock-eyed motherfucker from the dark ages, effectively aiming to choke the bastard. It is moments like these that I realise that conservatism has no place in the modern world.

“Ohhh, science is bad! It goes against teleology!” implies the hellacious cunt of a spokesperson. Knowing very little that most of the ‘logies’ stem from science -- the study of the ‘logic’ behind various subject matter. Then the question would rise: how does this numbskull get the cajones to declare a dichotomy between science the teleology? I mean clearly he must have some kind of profound groundwork to substantiate a claim of such contentious proportions. So where does teleology, a study of natural phenomena -- design -- purpose, differ from science? Nowhere, really. Oh yes, but it does differ greatly with conservative principles of ‘moral higher ground’, because it doesn’t always whine about how people and organisms should live, but instead, it simply tries to understand ‘why’ they live the way they live. Yes, because the Bible says so, because the Quran says so! Bloody hell! Because Science says that it's okay to explore sexuality and sexual limits, because 'teleologically' we're not too different from the animals in terms of our sexual side! Oh wait? So teleology does get along with science, it's just the holy books for the dolts that seem to have a problem with that! Yeah, fine, it isn't procreative - accepted! Could this cunt stick to a simple point rather than running off into a tangent on teleology? Oh no, that would just not be obfuscating enough.

Yes, this entire bullshit initiated over a conservative blog, and rants about how present-day freedoms; both sexual, and spiritual; seem be causing a decay in the system. They’ve had the audacity to classify this as a culture, while demanding a revolution. How ironic, because last time I checked, ‘freedom’ was a norm of flexibility: a principally ‘uncultured’ or ‘polarised’ concept. Also, last time I checked, the only culture that existed, was that of the conservative idealists; that is, all the religious traditions that plague this world today: the only anti-progressive entity that has humankind shackled down by its genitals! To top it all off; now we have the fucking conservative, obnoxiously stubborn and insidious breed of whining whores! Mongering a blunt force assault against a flexible ideal, intentionally and consciously depicting it as a false ‘monolithic’ culture, while clearly the only bungholes submerged in the monotheism of a culture are these particular religious cunts themselves.

Perhaps after all the wars against autonomies and theocracies are over, (which they won’t be, because Bush has now turned Iraq into an effective theocracy;) they could also continue this war for freedom, and abrogate these fascist book thumpers, who justify their dogma using a synthetic moral compass as their ‘political’ trump card -- the bastards!

I personally don’t care. Seriously, monogamy is a perfectly fine thing. If people can commit; if people can preserve a marriage; and in the end it does work well -- then fine and dandy! However, is this for everyone? Should the entire trend be painted over every fucking organism that has a chromosome count of 46? “YOU ARE HUMAN! YOU MUST BE MONOGOMOUS!” -- Yeah!? Fuck off! Jump inside a meat grinder! And then let the flies feast on your remains while their maggots can nest inside!

As stated, the beauty of freedom of choice shines in its ability to liberate the group from becoming a hostile and polarised dynamic: everyone can get what they want within their personal space. So long as one ‘logic’ or ‘law’ dominates, those against it will rave and bark. Unfortunately, with these extreme ‘neocons’, there is no arguing, because it’s their way, or the fucking high way! -- To hell!

Those that want monogamy can have monogamy. Those that don’t want it, can fucking abrogate the book! Use its pages as toilet paper; and then burn its remains! Doesn’t matter! It is fine, dandy, and harm free as long as they’re satisfied living their own lives and minding their own business without critically harming anyone. Oh, and before I close this session, let me add that divorce isn’t pretty! Nevertheless, in certain cases, it’s needed. Let’s not forget, a physically abusive marriage between two people can turn the children into relatively abusive individuals later on; individuals naturally prone to ‘replicating’ the same control issues in their own environments when they’d reach scenarios of self-control.

“DIVORCE IS BAD! ARRANGED MARRIAGE GOOD! SO LONG AS THE MAN GETS HIS SEX! AND GETS HIS BABIES FROM HIS FEMALE SEX SLAVE! ALL’S GOOD!” -- Seriously, because that is the bitter truth that it boils down to.
If these are the people that’ll overpopulate the heavens; then I want hell! I DEMAND HELL!

Signing off, a very bitter; angry; and dejected Kade.


Zombie’s response:
You opened and killed the topic .

I totally agree with you on all that. These close minded people don't have a place in the civilized world, I feel like choking them for their machism. It's hard to belive there are still people who think like that.


Kade’s response:
Thank you for taking the time to read. This was more of a 'rave' than a topic. See, these fascist scumbags! Believe that they hold power over the tenets of 'humane morals'. Of course, they have their religious legacy to back that up; each book has it's melodramatic 'tales' of religious heroes conquering the vices of the given times! Saving a suffering 'tribe' of people from the abuse of a 'conformist', 'CONSERVATIVE' autocracy! Hell, even if these tales are true! Nothing can compensate for the massive bloodshed and ignorance that has followed in lieu of these creeds! I don't care if they made a bunch of dark-age barbarians a bit normal! These are the modern times! And now, in present days instead of being progressive towards the changing cultures and needs: they seem to be fundamentally dogmatic, making barbarians out of people! "Oh oh! We're the roots of all the moral good in this world! Because remember about a zillion-years-ago, we fixed one person? Yes, we know that you probably don't remember; and of course, a billion people died in the name of our religion later on; and still continue to kill and die! But we fixed that one person a zillion-years-ago, so we get dibs on being the 'father creed' of all that is good!"

These people exist; ironically, the strongest movement is on the rise in America these days when it comes to 'Christian' fundamentalism. Of course, then there's the middle-east/asia and far-east for the Islamic rendition. I can't speak first hand, but I'm well into the news and reading up, and I think it's an educated estimation. It's shocking how so many Americans are actually prone to this psychology! (Though the best rebels against that very psychology are also Americans) I have another rave ready as a follow-up to this one. I'll post it later.


Sicarius’ Post:
QUOTE (Kade @ Sep 16 2005, 04:33 PM)
“DIVORCE IS BAD! ARRANGED MARRIAGE GOOD! SO LONG AS THE MAN GETS HIS SEX! AND GETS HIS BABIES FROM HIS FEMALE SEX SLAVE! ALL’S GOOD!”




what the fuck!!!??



just, what the fuck people!!!???



I agree with Kade, yes, Hell....


Puppet’s response:
same here...that is fuckin stupid shit...i mean look where the world is going. we're going fuckin down-hill man...

i bet its only we that understands this bullshit.


CrypticOrchid’s response:
it's going downhill both ways...

you've got people cheating on loved ones and having multiple sex partners... and on the other side you have people who feel the need to over correct this decay of society by resorting to the "old fashioned" men-control-all ways...

and me, i sit in the middle where i feel i am best. i love my boyfriend, he loves me... i'd never cheat on him, and he'd never cheat on me. i dunno... my head's whizzing around right now.

i think you get my opinion


Kade’s response:
I am sorry, but quite frankly, dubbing this a tie in between a real clash of two degenerating ideals would still be too naïve a deduction. These guys on the other side; y’know, the religious conservatives/rights? They’re not out to just restore some male dominant order; "order" is not part of the package in reality. They promote monogamy against the state of modern times. They use the low moral outcomes of the modern day “sleep and dump” concept, to substantiate their outdated and overstayed presence. Ironically, most of the elitist males in this union of marriage: cheat their way through, anyway.

Anton LaVey, the author of the Satanic bible had just this very notion that pushed him to create his own cult. He spoke of how these typically uptight christian men would spend their Saturday nights getting drunk and adulterating, then showing up at church the following Sunday, seeking redemption. One could even consider the eastern paradigm where you still have conservative Islam; the men can cheat all they want; an open ticket basically -- bang all you want, then pray and put up the face of a good virtuous person! While the women just stay at home with their heads burried between their legs, covered in fucking cloaks that would make them look like giant shuttle-cocks. I would still respect these ‘holier than thou’ scumbags, if their utopia weren’t some ugly truth tainted by a pathetic deception of an exterior.

So between the two sides; one being the modern day low moral cheats, and the other being the archaic male dominant cheats/cheaps/drunkards! I’d still favour the modern day scum for their relatively lack of theological hypocrisy. Yes, the modern day scum are immoral vermin, no doubt; but at least they don’t try to justify their ways and their moral handicaps through monotheistic logic. They just do their shit, and then walk about without shame; while the book thumpers do their shit! Then pray for it! And walk about without shame in firm belief that they've jumped the loop hole in the system! -- BASTARDS!


Hellraiser’s response:
"I was wishing more than anything to take out that ‘knot’ in my stomach, tear out my intestines, and then wrap them around this cock-eyed motherfucker from the dark ages, effectively aiming to choke the bastard." - Kade

I find this attractive. Should I be worried? 

But seriously...that is one of the dumbest articles ever created. I mean, my brain feels like a god dammed baked potato.


Kade’s response:
QUOTE
I find this attractive. Should I be worried?


If that was the case! You would've been worried a long, long time ago, baby!


Spiral Exit’s response:
fuck, I'm angry again..

ignorance is what drives me fucking crazy.


HauntedBella’s response:

QUOTE (Kade @ Sep 17 2005, 03:33 AM)
“DIVORCE IS BAD! ARRANGED MARRIAGE GOOD! SO LONG AS THE MAN GETS HIS SEX! AND GETS HIS BABIES FROM HIS FEMALE SEX SLAVE! ALL’S GOOD!” -- Seriously, because that is the bitter truth that it boils down to.
If these are the people that’ll overpopulate the heavens; then I want hell! I DEMAND HELL!




You wouldn't be the only one!
It's just all fucking wrong..!!
Just reading this makes me want to do the exact thing that you said at the start.
Religion creates ignorance to people, to see the truth in this world.
I can't say any more..
Just... people are the ones killing this world.
No-one else.
Pretty hard to save everyone now... from all the ignorance that has been created.
GRRR!!!
Just pisses me off!!


QUOTE (Kade @ Sep 20 2005, 12:13 PM)
"So between the two sides; one being the modern day low moral cheats, and the other being the archaic male dominant cheats/cheaps/drunkards! I’d still favour the modern day scum for their relatively lack of theological hypocrisy. Yes, the modern day scum are immoral vermin, no doubt; but at least they don’t try to justify their ways and their moral handicaps through monotheistic logic. They just do their shit, and then walk about without shame; while the book thumpers do their shit! Then pray for it! And walk about without shame in firm belief that they've jumped the loop hole in the system! -- BASTARDS!"


BASTARDS INDEED!!
There's no words to describe how I agree.
i'm practically speachless because I have so much to say!!


QUOTE (Kade @ Sep 20 2005, 12:13 PM)
"Anton LaVey, the author of the Satanic bible had just this very notion that pushed him to create his own cult. He spoke of how these typically uptight christian men would spend their Saturday nights getting drunk and adulterating, then showing up at church the following Sunday, seeking redemption. One could even consider the eastern paradigm where you still have conservative Islam; the men can cheat all they want; an open ticket basically -- bang all you want, then pray and put up the face of a good virtuous person! While the women just stay at home with their heads burried between their legs, covered in fucking cloaks that would make them look like giant shuttle-cocks. I would still respect these ‘holier than thou’ scumbags, if their utopia weren’t some ugly truth tainted by a pathetic deception of an exterior. "



Hypocrytes.
That's all that the "religious" people are.
It's annoying to see that there's something that makes a person so weak, that they have to follow something... But then go off... Do what ever the rest of the world is doing.. and then pretend that nothing has happened because they had prayed. And their sins are "forgiven" and so such bullshit on.
What about the times before jesus had even existed?
What did they follow?
How did they survive their lives?
Or does it just show to us that you don't need to have god by your side to fogive any "sins" that you had created... Or so you can go there... get your sins forgiven and then next week go out and do the same shit.
I'm sorry if I begin not making sense. Or I already don't but there's so many thoughts running through my head about this. It's impossible to write it in a couple of sentenses.
Also... where is it possible to get the Satanic Bible?
I would love to read it. Or maybe read more reality apart from all the things that you read in the "Bibles".


QUOTE (Kade @ Sep 17 2005, 11:24 AM)
"Oh oh! We're the roots of all the moral good in this world! Because remember about a zillion-years-ago, we fixed one person? Yes, we know that you probably don't remember; and of course, a billion people died in the name of our religion later on; and still continue to kill and die! But we fixed that one person a zillion-years-ago, so we get dibs on being the 'father creed' of all that is good!"



I hate religion at times.
With a serious PASSION.
Hate is a strong word, I don't ussually chuck it around.
But i HATE people who are so narrow-minded to even stop or to think about what they are doing, or what the are following etc.
And I agree with you Kade, with such a passion it hurts!!
It even more hurts to see OUR world be THIS way.
Or ANYONE in it.
People have become so blind in our society,
they might aswell poke their eyes out.


Kade’s final thoughts:
FUCK YEAH! FUCK YEAH! FUCK YEAH!

The officious pricks can stick this one in their pipes and smoke it! Before choking on their own religious reactionary nature! -- BASTARDS!

Many thanks to the input from the cool batallion of satanic twats, courtesy of The Cursed Pentagram; http://www.thecuresedpentagram.tk/.

Stay monogamous... err... cool... fuckers.

Cheers,
Kade

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